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Ask a Spartan Anything about Michigan State - MSU - UGA Edition

  • cmille11 said...

    Yeah he's no Denard, but he is pretty good most of the time at pickin up the first down with his legs.

    I agree that Cousins will be the 2nd best QB, so this should be exciting to see how well the secondary comes out. Boise whooped us on the short passes.

    That's something that MSU fans wish Cousins would do more of. He had an open field in front of him on 3rd and 10 in the 4th Q of the Big 10 CCG, but winged a pass down-field to Keshawn Martin instead of running for the first down. The pass was initially ruled complete (would have been a 30+ yard gain), but then it was overruled on the replay. MSU punted, forced a 3 and out, then Isaiah Lewis ran into a kicker . . . and MSU fans are now on a UGA board instead of an Oregon one wink_msu.

    MSU has a pretty effective WR screen game and also utilizes the FB in the flats from time to time. There are plenty of vertical routes, but the Spartans do like to throw short on 1st down, especially if the run isn't working.

    I'm very curious to see what the MSU OL looks like. Though they were a sub-par run-blocking unit for most of the year, they really came on strong over last last 4 games (155, 174, 166 and 190 yards on the ground).

    Now I don't think MSU is going to turn into a rushing juggernaut and several of those opponents (Indiana, for instance) were not very good. At the same time, with the OL injuries and the number of first year players, you have to think that MSU's OL has far from reached its ceiling. Also, MSU didn't allow a sack over those final 4 games and Cousins has been sacked just 14 times this season. Given that he's about as mobile as the Statue of Liberty, it certainly seems that the new OTs got their pass-blocking down well.

    The 3-4 has it's own set of concerns, but I really think this is going to be a highly competitive game. I know I'll be there.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Serious question, did you even bother looking at MSU's roster, or did you just assume Big 10 = bad? I think you might want to take another look if you think UGA's DBs and LBs will face "no threats."

    Honestly, no. But I doubt you have another ringer in your backfield. (I feel like the SEC snob by the way which was not my intentions.) & I'm not trying to disrespect any of msu's skill guys. But given the mixture of size & speed we've faced every week, I just don't see our guys feeling threatened. I don't expect to need to blitz to create pressure, meaning exotic coverages and disguises and crazy activity presnap. I also expect Jones & Washington to turn your tackles into welcome mats. So you're QB will be running for his life or just throwing the ball up for grabs by the 4th.

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  • SmyrnaDawg said...

    Honestly, no. But I doubt you have another ringer in your backfield. (I feel like the SEC snob by the way which was not my intentions.) & I'm not trying to disrespect any of msu's skill guys. But given the mixture of size & speed we've faced every week, I just don't see our guys feeling threatened. I don't expect to need to blitz to create pressure, meaning exotic coverages and disguises and crazy activity presnap. I also expect Jones & Washington to turn your tackles into welcome mats. So you're QB will be running for his life or just throwing the ball up for grabs by the 4th.

    FWIW, BJ Cunningham is currently the #12 receiver nationally with over 1200 yards and 12 TDS. He also averages over 17 yards per catch. Le'Veon Bell is the Spartan's main RB, with 900 yards even and 5.5 YPC. Tack on Kirk Cousins completing nearly 66% of his passes for over 3000 yards, 24 TDs and 7 INTs and I think you have a pretty solid mix of talent.

    I've heard the "SEC Talent" week to week argument, but the facts remain that UGA didn't see Bama, Arkansas or LSU during the regular season. S. Car beat UGA and after that, which team had the mixture of "size and speed" that's so much better than what MSU puts out there? Tennessee? Vanderbilt? Florida?

    Jones is a great LB and deserving of AA honors. Did you know MSU's Denicos Allen (SAM LB) is a pretty good pass-rusher in his own right? 17 TFL and 10 sacks on the year. UGA isn't the only team that can bring pressure from the edges. The Spartans also feature an AA of their own in DT Jerel Worthy. At 6'3 310, the man is right up there with the best DTs in the nation, including those you see in the SEC. MSU's William Gholston, a former 5-star recruit, sets the edge at DE and checks in at 6'7 283.

    I really think that MSU has more talent than you're giving them credit for, particularly on defense. I invite you to peruse the MSU stats at your leisure. This should be an intense, physical, close game.

    http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2011&org=416

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SmyrnaDawg said...

    Honestly, no. But I doubt you have another ringer in your backfield. (I feel like the SEC snob by the way which was not my intentions.) & I'm not trying to disrespect any of msu's skill guys. But given the mixture of size & speed we've faced every week, I just don't see our guys feeling threatened. I don't expect to need to blitz to create pressure, meaning exotic coverages and disguises and crazy activity presnap. I also expect Jones & Washington to turn your tackles into welcome mats. So you're QB will be running for his life or just throwing the ball up for grabs by the 4th.

    Just a tad (tad) overconfident maybe smyrna...don't forget the BSU game. It was thought that we wouldn't have any problem with anyONE on their roster besides maybe Kellen Moore and look what happened. It's not over till the score board says zero on Jan. 2nd, but I hope your right that it won't be much of a contest to start up next season.

    truckdynasty

  • yeah probably, I'm also guilty of lumping all Big 10 teams into those nOhio St. teams that get thumped when they play a SEC defense. Troy Smith in the game vs Florida had to be thinking, 'man they don't rush the passer like this at minnesota'. Its hard for me to take msu serious when they quit last year in their bowl vs bama.

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  • I'm right there with ya, but after watching us struggle against Boise I tried to look at everything 50/50. I for one FIRMLY believe tOhio st didn't deserve the title against Miami...I think in 2001? Sorry Spartan, just not alot of love from SEC fans given the evidence shown in the past. Would be nice to see a close game, but I want us to roll.tongue

    truckdynasty

  • SmyrnaDawg said...

    yeah probably, I'm also guilty of lumping all Big 10 teams into those nOhio St. teams that get thumped when they play a SEC defense. Troy Smith in the game vs Florida had to be thinking, 'man they don't rush the passer like this at minnesota'. Its hard for me to take msu serious when they quit last year in their bowl vs bama.

    We didn't quit. Half our team got injured!

    F Michigan

    AASpartan

  • perrydawg said...

    I'm right there with ya, but after watching us struggle against Boise I tried to look at everything 50/50. I for one FIRMLY believe tOhio st didn't deserve the title against Miami...I think in 2001? Sorry Spartan, just not alot of love from SEC fans given the evidence shown in the past. Would be nice to see a close game, but I want us to roll.tongue

    Well, of course fans want their team to roll lol. I just see this game as kind of the reverse of 2008; this time MSU has the experienced QB and veteran WRs (though MSU did hold Green and Massaquoi to 1 reception each).

    It'll be a really fun game. Other than a healthy Alshon Jeffrey, I don't think UGA has seen a WR duo like Cunningham and Martin. I'm not saying that they're freak athletes by any means, just that they're both very good. Not a great year for SEC passers.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Whoa whoa now....MSU has the experienced QB??? Check the profile image...three years in our system with the last two being played in the SEC. I don't believe your QB has been rushed like AM has. You do have the more experienced WRs, but our pups have grown up VERY quick, IE Malcolm Mitchell. In 2008, we had ONE main target and then MoMass and KD which got the attention when AJ was doubled/tripled in coverage. This year you guys are going to have to account for 3-5 WRs. During the ending stretch Murray threw 14 TDs to (if I'm not mistaken) 13 different guys. I'm sure it will be a fun game to watch, even though I'll be at work...smh. Our secondary will give you guys a run for your $$$$.

    truckdynasty

  • perrydawg said...

    Whoa whoa now....MSU has the experienced QB??? Check the profile image...three years in our system with the last two being played in the SEC. I don't believe your QB has been rushed like AM has. You do have the more experienced WRs, but our pups have grown up VERY quick, IE Malcolm Mitchell. In 2008, we had ONE main target and then MoMass and KD which got the attention when AJ was doubled/tripled in coverage. This year you guys are going to have to account for 3-5 WRs. During the ending stretch Murray threw 14 TDs to (if I'm not mistaken) 13 different guys. I'm sure it will be a fun game to watch, even though I'll be at work...smh. Our secondary will give you guys a run for your $$$$.

    Well, yea, I mean, MSU's QB is a RS SR 3 year starter with 5 years in the same system. Doesn't get much more experienced than that.

    And you're right, MSU's QB hasn't been rushed like Murray, because the Spartan's OL is pretty solid at pass-blocking.

    The SEC defense argument doesn't quite hold so much weight when you consider that UGA didn't play Bama or LSU during the regular season. The 2 times UGA played a good conference team, S. Car and LSU, they lost.

    Other than that, UGA played 7-5 Auburn (blew them out), then 6-6 Florida, Vandy, Miss. State, 5-7 Kentucky and Tennessee, as well as 2-10 Ole Miss.

    I truly mean no offense, but I don't see the "SEC grind" that a lot of your fans seem to be claim is so tough. I mean, after the S. Car game it went

    FCS Coastal Carolina
    2-10 Ole Miss
    6-6 Miss. State
    5-7 Tennesee
    6-6 Vandy
    6-6 Florida
    4-9 New Mexico State
    7-5 Auburn
    5-7 Kentucky
    8-4 Georgia Tech

    Additionally, almost all of the SEC games, save the blowout of Auburn, were close: the best non-AU win was 14 points over the Mississippi schools. After that, it'd be a 9 pt win vs. Kentucky at home, an 8 pt win over Tennessee, a 5 pt win over Vandy and a 4 pt win over UF.

    I really think Michigan State is better than a 6-6 or 7-5 SEC school. I don't think the Spartans are LSU or Bama, but I'd argue that Michigan State faced a tougher gauntlet in the Big 10.

    @ 6-6 Ohio State W
    10-2 Michigan W
    11-2 Wisconsin W
    @9-3 Nebraska L
    3-9 Minnesota W
    @ 7-5 Iowa W
    1-11 Indiana W
    @ 6-6 Northwestern W

    The biggest difference is that MSU had 2 "gimmee" conference games against IU and Minnesota. Other than that, the Spartans played 3 9+ win conference teams, plus faced traditional power Ohio State on the road. MSU comes in pretty well tested.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Dug deep in your back pocket for that one lol. We gave the USC game away. Our defense held them to 17 points...thanks again O and ST!!!! KC 3016 yards, 24-7 TD-INT. AM 2861 yards 33-12. Pretty similar, but as it has been demonstrated in big time bowl games...SEC defenses tend to dismantle BIG10 offenses, well at least that goes for tOSU. (just for you spartan) I don't expect to sway into agreement with me, and I'm sure your the same. I should be going to college for journalism so I can cover my favorite team, man...dreaming. I'll be happy as long as our offense shows up this bowl game and scores more then SIX points and of course we win. Who's next...

    truckdynasty

  • SpartanRocky said...

    FWIW, BJ Cunningham is currently the #12 receiver nationally with over 1200 yards and 12 TDS. He also averages over 17 yards per catch. Le'Veon Bell is the Spartan's main RB, with 900 yards even and 5.5 YPC. Tack on Kirk Cousins completing nearly 66% of his passes for over 3000 yards, 24 TDs and 7 INTs and I think you have a pretty solid mix of talent.

    I've heard the "SEC Talent" week to week argument, but the facts remain that UGA didn't see Bama, Arkansas or LSU during the regular season. S. Car beat UGA and after that, which team had the mixture of "size and speed" that's so much better than what MSU puts out there? Tennessee? Vanderbilt? Florida?

    Jones is a great LB and deserving of AA honors. Did you know MSU's Denicos Allen (SAM LB) is a pretty good pass-rusher in his own right? 17 TFL and 10 sacks on the year. UGA isn't the only team that can bring pressure from the edges. The Spartans also feature an AA of their own in DT Jerel Worthy. At 6'3 310, the man is right up there with the best DTs in the nation, including those you see in the SEC. MSU's William Gholston, a former 5-star recruit, sets the edge at DE and checks in at 6'7 283.

    I really think that MSU has more talent than you're giving them credit for, particularly on defense. I invite you to peruse the MSU stats at your leisure. This should be an intense, physical, close game.

    http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2011&org=416

    I assure you UGA and most fans who have watched MSU play this year have a lot of respect for them and know the challange they face. I think were confident, but understand this game will take no mistakes and great special teams play to win.

    I will say there may be a perception down here that Big 10 teams tank it in the Bowl games, especially against SEC teams. I don't know what the overall record is since the current bowl aligment was set, but there is a perception the SEC dominates.

    Whether true or not, if you look at the January Bowl games, there are 6 Big 10 teams in play and the oddsmakers only have 1 as a favorite (Mich over VA Tech).

    I personally think this will be very close and maybe the best bowl game of the year, and I will be very disappointed if UGA loses, but not surprised.

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  • Dawgs are 7-0 against the Big 10 in bowls.

    None of that has a bearing on this game. But you have to know why your optimism is taken with a grain of salt, Rocky.

    You sneer at our competition. But the fact remains is that
    1) we shut down running games
    2) we have an excellent pass rush
    3) we have a legit secondary. 3 guys have a legit shot for Sundays.

    Our defense is good enough to neutralize everything your team throws at us. That doesn't guarantee a win. But it guarantees that we'll have an opportunity to put the game away late in the game.

    meansonny

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Well, yea, I mean, MSU's QB is a RS SR 3 year starter with 5 years in the same system. Doesn't get much more experienced than that.

    And you're right, MSU's QB hasn't been rushed like Murray, because the Spartan's OL is pretty solid at pass-blocking.

    The SEC defense argument doesn't quite hold so much weight when you consider that UGA didn't play Bama or LSU during the regular season. The 2 times UGA played a good conference team, S. Car and LSU, they lost.

    Other than that, UGA played 7-5 Auburn (blew them out), then 6-6 Florida, Vandy, Miss. State, 5-7 Kentucky and Tennessee, as well as 2-10 Ole Miss.

    I truly mean no offense, but I don't see the "SEC grind" that a lot of your fans seem to be claim is so tough. I mean, after the S. Car game it went

    FCS Coastal Carolina 2-10 Ole Miss 6-6 Miss. State 5-7 Tennesee 6-6 Vandy 6-6 Florida 4-9 New Mexico State 7-5 Auburn 5-7 Kentucky 8-4 Georgia Tech

    Additionally, almost all of the SEC games, save the blowout of Auburn, were close: the best non-AU win was 14 points over the Mississippi schools. After that, it'd be a 9 pt win vs. Kentucky at home, an 8 pt win over Tennessee, a 5 pt win over Vandy and a 4 pt win over UF.

    I really think Michigan State is better than a 6-6 or 7-5 SEC school. I don't think the Spartans are LSU or Bama, but I'd argue that Michigan State faced a tougher gauntlet in the Big 10.

    @ 6-6 Ohio State W 10-2 Michigan W 11-2 Wisconsin W @9-3 Nebraska L 3-9 Minnesota W @ 7-5 Iowa W 1-11 Indiana W @ 6-6 Northwestern W

    The biggest difference is that MSU had 2 "gimmee" conference games against IU and Minnesota. Other than that, the Spartans played 3 9+ win conference teams, plus faced traditional power Ohio State on the road. MSU comes in pretty well tested.

    I am sick of reading that we didn't play Alabama-Arkansas-LSU in regular season play this year. We rotate 2 SEC West teams home and home games and it is just the luck of the draw. And UGA can't control the fact that the SEC East is down with Florida and Tennessee in coaching turmoil. biggrin

    The SEC bias comes from the fact that every single time a "GREAT" Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 team that plays an SEC team gets shut down by the SEC defense. We always hear that the other conferences have just as talented and fast athletes BEFORE the game. For some reason it never seems to translate to the field.

    I'm not dissing MSU at all, as I think UGA-MSU will be one of the better bowl matchups this season, but let's get real here. The bias comes from Ohio State vs. Florida, Ohio State vs. LSU, Oklahoma vs. Florida, Alabama vs. Texas, and Auburn vs. Oregon. Not including other matchups during the regular season. The only game that was close in those BCS championship games was the Auburn game because Auburn's defense has sucked since Ted Roof was the DC.

    We know other conferences have just as good as athletes. But honestly we don't care how great your players' numbers were against Minnesota or Northwestern or Indiana. Until the other conferences can make games competitive, then the SEC bias will be there.

    Edit: I disagree. I would say our best win was the thrashing we gave USCe. That game should have been 42-14, but alas special teams does count as part of the game.banghead I would love to see how our games could have played out without special teams. lol

    This post was edited by coleym29 on 12/16/2011 at 11:30 PM

    coleym29

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Well, yea, I mean, MSU's QB is a RS SR 3 year starter with 5 years in the same system. Doesn't get much more experienced than that.

    And you're right, MSU's QB hasn't been rushed like Murray, because the Spartan's OL is pretty solid at pass-blocking.

    The SEC defense argument doesn't quite hold so much weight when you consider that UGA didn't play Bama or LSU during the regular season. The 2 times UGA played a good conference team, S. Car and LSU, they lost.

    Other than that, UGA played 7-5 Auburn (blew them out), then 6-6 Florida, Vandy, Miss. State, 5-7 Kentucky and Tennessee, as well as 2-10 Ole Miss.

    I truly mean no offense, but I don't see the "SEC grind" that a lot of your fans seem to be claim is so tough. I mean, after the S. Car game it went

    FCS Coastal Carolina 2-10 Ole Miss 6-6 Miss. State 5-7 Tennesee 6-6 Vandy 6-6 Florida 4-9 New Mexico State 7-5 Auburn 5-7 Kentucky 8-4 Georgia Tech

    Additionally, almost all of the SEC games, save the blowout of Auburn, were close: the best non-AU win was 14 points over the Mississippi schools. After that, it'd be a 9 pt win vs. Kentucky at home, an 8 pt win over Tennessee, a 5 pt win over Vandy and a 4 pt win over UF.

    I really think Michigan State is better than a 6-6 or 7-5 SEC school. I don't think the Spartans are LSU or Bama, but I'd argue that Michigan State faced a tougher gauntlet in the Big 10.

    @ 6-6 Ohio State W 10-2 Michigan W 11-2 Wisconsin W @9-3 Nebraska L 3-9 Minnesota W @ 7-5 Iowa W 1-11 Indiana W @ 6-6 Northwestern W

    The biggest difference is that MSU had 2 "gimmee" conference games against IU and Minnesota. Other than that, the Spartans played 3 9+ win conference teams, plus faced traditional power Ohio State on the road. MSU comes in pretty well tested.

    And when people talk about "SEC speed" they are referring to the speed of linemen. Games are won in the trenches with dominant line play, and when our defensive linemen can get off the ball faster than your offensive linemen, your QB doesn't have much of a chance as a pocket rarely develops.

    I have never heard an argument that skill players from other conferences are slower than SEC skill players. Except for Ron Dayne. I think he ran a 4.3 second 10 yard dash. lol

    coleym29

  • meansonny said...

    Dawgs are 7-0 against the Big 10 in bowls.

    None of that has a bearing on this game. But you have to know why your optimism is taken with a grain of salt, Rocky.

    You sneer at our competition. But the fact remains is that 1) we shut down running games 2) we have an excellent pass rush 3) we have a legit secondary. 3 guys have a legit shot for Sundays.

    Our defense is good enough to neutralize everything your team throws at us. That doesn't guarantee a win. But it guarantees that we'll have an opportunity to put the game away late in the game.

    I know that might be words might be thrown at the big green wall of MSU, but I think that our defense is of a different level that is going to rear it's head in this game.

    Not to kiss ass, but the 3 teams in the B1G that I would respect are MSU, Wisconsin, and Nebraska.

    I've heard a lot of shit of VA Tech of not deserving to be in the Sugar Bowl... UM(ichagan) has done even less to deserve a spot to me.

    The "2006 Tosu and mICH" bullshit that has showed up this year doesn't hold water. They proved that they weren't the #1 or #2 teams of the season that year. Unfortunately, Bama is the #2 team this year. Hopefully they get blown out.

    Let's all hope this season is the catalyst for the playoffs that we needed.

    This post was edited by Face Stabber on 12/17/2011 at 1:02 AM

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  • SpartanRocky, I have enjoyed this thread very much and have appreciated your candid answers with our questions and concerns with MSU. I wanted to tell you thank you for sticking with us replying back promptly and with plenty of information regarding the Spartans. Went to our thread on your site and it was a tad bit off subject. However, I understand there is a larger population on that thread which means increasing the number of fans off topic. From what I have seen of MSU this year, they have been exceptional and I look forward to what could be the best bowl game of this entire season. I suppose I was hoping to guide the discussion in the direction of your bowl practices. Have they started, and are there any significant injuries for any Spartans that may cause them to miss this game? Also, just wanted your thoughts on our Jarvis Jones. Have to say I love this kid and he something special. I know from reading that your OLine has had some issues this year with starting talent being available. How good are your tackles feet? I managed to catch a couple of your games, however one happened to be the ND game and the other was your first game with Wisconsin (great hail mary by the way), however, I wasn't really impressed with most of the OLines ability to get into the second level. Is this a work in progress, or have enough strides been made to where you feel comfortable? Not that I'm trying to be overly nice here, however, I have one of my junior marines here with me for the holidays and he happens to be a MSU fan, so for the sake of keeping it civil I figured I would congratulate you on a good season this year and hope to have my questions answered.

    "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave... " -Patrick Henry

    SgtDawg

  • It is amazing how many similarities these teams have.

    But I've identified a few differences that could play major roles during the game.

    Mich St has done an awesome job pass protecting Cousins. 16 sacks allowed during the season.
    UGA on the other hand has allowed 29 sacks.

    The obvious follow up stat is how much more efficient Cousins has been. 65% completion and only 7 INTs.

    On the flip side... Murray's legs have converted 21 first downs (Cousins 4).
    UGA has been a lot more efficient on third downs converting 43.5% (over 50% since the beginning of Nov).
    Mich St has managed 39% (43% since Nov 1).
    UGA has gotten teams off the field on third down at a 28% clip (33% clip since Nov 1)
    Mich St is 33% (36% since Nov 1)
    Georgia is dedicated to the run game with 543 rush attempts.
    Mich St has attempted 460 rushes.

    What I'm getting at is that UGA's style allows it to control the ball. The better the Dawgs can keep the ball out of Cousins hands, the fewer points Mich St will throw up on the board (they've been scoring a lot the last part of the season).

    On the other side of the ball, Michigan State is going to put a lot of pressure on Murray. How Murray handles it will probably determine the outcome of the game. UGA has the weapons. But can we make the plays against a legitimate opponent when the outcome of the game is on the line?

    meansonny

  • Hey Rock:

    I'm so tired or my UofM friends making fun of Sparty's outfit. What do I say to these eunuchs when they say he wears a skirt. I get soooo mad I want to punch 'em in the dick.

    VICTORY FOR MSU

    This post was edited by DICK HEAD on 12/17/2011 at 9:12 AM

    DICK HEAD

  • DICK HEAD said...

    Hey Rock:

    I'm so tired or my UofM friends making fun of Sparty's outfit. What do I say to these eunuchs when they say he wears a skirt. I get soooo mad I want to punch 'em in the dick.

    VICTORY FOR MSU

    What does this have to do with UGA/MSU??? Stick to the discussion Dick.

    This post was edited by truckdynasty on 12/17/2011 at 11:05 AM

    truckdynasty

  • DICK HEAD said...

    okie, dokie - I will (by the way, it's Mr. HEAD to you). Here's what you can guys can expect when you face our D

    WT - that's not what I wantedfrustrated

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by DICK HEAD on 12/17/2011 at 11:31 AM

    DICK HEAD

  • DICK HEAD said...

    okie, dokie - I will. Here's what you can expect when you face our D

    flex

    If that is all they have, ExLax will help.

    sowegadawg

  • DICK HEAD said...

    WT - that's not what I wanted

    Your offensive coordinator will continously being doing this...banghead. Our D shut down the number one team in the nation...for a halfbanghead and didn't allow a first down that half. In 2008 it was about the RBs, I guess this year it will be about the Ds and QBs...HA we got the edgewoot

    truckdynasty

  • meansonny said...

    Dawgs are 7-0 against the Big 10 in bowls.

    None of that has a bearing on this game. But you have to know why your optimism is taken with a grain of salt, Rocky.

    You sneer at our competition. But the fact remains is that 1) we shut down running games 2) we have an excellent pass rush 3) we have a legit secondary. 3 guys have a legit shot for Sundays.

    Our defense is good enough to neutralize everything your team throws at us. That doesn't guarantee a win. But it guarantees that we'll have an opportunity to put the game away late in the game.

    That's pretty much word for word what MSU has. That's why I'm so intrigued by the game; the teams are nearly mirror images of each other. I'm almost through the season stats and man . . . other than UGA's rushing O being around 30 ypg better than MSU's, everything is close. I think UGA allows 2 less yards/game on the ground, MSU averages 5 more yards/game through the air, etc.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • coley.moore said...

    I am sick of reading that we didn't play Alabama-Arkansas-LSU in regular season play this year. We rotate 2 SEC West teams home and home games and it is just the luck of the draw. And UGA can't control the fact that the SEC East is down with Florida and Tennessee in coaching turmoil. biggrin

    The SEC bias comes from the fact that every single time a "GREAT" Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 team that plays an SEC team gets shut down by the SEC defense. We always hear that the other conferences have just as talented and fast athletes BEFORE the game. For some reason it never seems to translate to the field.

    I'm not dissing MSU at all, as I think UGA-MSU will be one of the better bowl matchups this season, but let's get real here. The bias comes from Ohio State vs. Florida, Ohio State vs. LSU, Oklahoma vs. Florida, Alabama vs. Texas, and Auburn vs. Oregon. Not including other matchups during the regular season. The only game that was close in those BCS championship games was the Auburn game because Auburn's defense has sucked since Ted Roof was the DC.

    We know other conferences have just as good as athletes. But honestly we don't care how great your players' numbers were against Minnesota or Northwestern or Indiana. Until the other conferences can make games competitive, then the SEC bias will be there.

    Edit: I disagree. I would say our best win was the thrashing we gave USCe. That game should have been 42-14, but alas special teams does count as part of the game.banghead I would love to see how our games could have played out without special teams. lol

    The Bama-Ark-LSU thing isn't UGA's fault, but it's something that I have to consider when analyzing the game, particularly the stats. When I hear about a team seeing great athletes week in and week out, then see that they didn't play 3 of the top 4 teams in their league, it rings a little hollow.

    Again, schedule is what it is: in 2 seasons MSU is going to miss tOSU, Wisconsin and PSU during the regular season. I'm not holding your record against you; UGA earned it's 10 wins. I do have an issue with a claim that Georgia has seen drastically better talent week in and week out than MSU by virtue of playing in the SEC when the Dawgs missed the 3 best teams in the conference during the regular season. I don't think Georgia gets the raw benefit of the SEC bias in this case, because there wasn't that gauntlet that teams in your conference also faces.

    I really think Georgia and MSU are darn equal. Both have taken some lumps (Boise, LSU / Notre Dame and Nebraska) and have some pretty solid Ws (Ga. Tech and Auburn / Michigan and Wisconsin).

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky