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Common Opponents... defensive stats

  • I know that this is only 1/3 of the football equation. But this is exactly why UGA fans should hold our head high going into the game on Saturday.

    There are 6 common opponents with UGA and LSU (Ole Miss, Miss St, Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, & Florida).

    Over those 6 games, UGA gave up 9 fewer first downs (68 to 77).
    UGA gave up 9 more total yards (1252 to 1243).
    UGA gave up 484 more passing yards (1127 to 643).
    UGA gave up 460 fewer rushing yards (122 to 582).
    UGA had a MUCH better opponents 3rd down conversion ratio (23.17% to 32.05%) or (19 out of 82 versus 25 out of 78).
    UGA created 2 more turnovers (14 to 12)
    UGA had the ball a WHOPPING 16:57 more in time of possession.
    UGA held the opponents to 1 fewer rushing TD (1 versus 2)
    UGA hed the opponents to a MUCH lower rushing per attempt average (0.8 versus 2.77)
    UGA gave up 2 more passing TDs than LSU (4 versus 2).
    UGA had 7 more sacks (28 versus 21).
    UGA had 1 fewer INT (7 versus 8).

    Despite UGA's massive advantage against the run game, UGA was also very close to LSU in the opposing QB efficiency rating.
    Against Ole Miss (52.37 for LSU and 79.39 for UGA).
    Against Miss St (91.38 for LSU and 85.43 for UGA).
    Against Auburn (106.35 for LSU and 110.41 for UGA).
    Against Kentucky (63.38 for LSU and 81.19 for UGA).
    Against Florida (104.38 for LSU and 105.53 for UGA).
    Against Tennessee (63.76 for LSU and 115.90 for UGA).

    If LSU has a National Championship caliber defense... then so does UGA.
    And a defense like that can be more than capable of allowing Aaron Murray an opportunity to win the ballgame late in the 4th quarter.

    This post was edited by meansonny on 11/28/2011 at 4:11 PM

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  • The full disclosure piece is that LSU has a national championship caliber running game.
    And UGA's is tattered and piecemailed (UGA can run on first and second down... it's the third down and goalline that still is unproven).

    LSU currently has 32 rushing TDs offensively.
    UGA currently has 15 rushing TDs.
    If you look at National Champions from the past several years, the common denominator is the ability to run the football into the endzone.

    IF LSU cramps down on UGA's ability to run, the fear is that Aaron Murray may be forced into some costly mistakes without a balanced attack to protect himself.

    On the flip side... UGA will have a harder time forcing those turnovers from LSU if LSU is able to maintain balance in their playcalling.

    meansonny

  • Wow. Great post Sonny; the one quibble I might have is the quarterback rating statistics you gave; we weren't all that close in some of those game. But otherwise, this is awesome. Upvote!clap

    This post was edited by BleedRedNBlack on 11/28/2011 at 4:18 PM

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  • Keep in mind too that UF played a freshman QB at LSU the week after Brantley got hurt.

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  • Man, I am so pumped for this game.

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  • BleedRedNBlack said...

    Wow. Great post Sonny; the one quibble I might have is the quarterback rating statistics you gave; we weren't all that close in some of those game. But otherwise, this is awesome. Upvote!

    You are right. But 2 of the 3 games that our opponents QB efficiency was significantly higher... we were still keeping the opposing QB to under an efficiency of 90 (Ole Miss and Kentucky games). And that's pretty stout regardless of how close we were to LSU.

    In the game that we were far off and over 90 efficiency... LSU faced Matt Simms (completed 30% of his passes to his own teammates. Had 2 INTs and 0 TDs). We faced Tyler Bray. A football fan doesn't need much more of an explanation than that.

    meansonny

  • Good info, better post. Upvote.

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  • meansonny said...

    You are right. But 2 of the 3 games that our opponents QB efficiency was significantly higher... we were still keeping the opposing QB to under an efficiency of 90 (Ole Miss and Kentucky games). And that's pretty stout regardless of how close we were to LSU.

    In the game that we were far off and over 90 efficiency... LSU faced Matt Simms (completed 30% of his passes to his own teammates. Had 2 INTs and 0 TDs). We faced Tyler Bray. A football fan doesn't need much more of an explanation than that.

    I have two big concerns with LSU and how they match up with us right now and one other concern that sticks in the back of my mind.

    1. How will the right side of our OL handle their DL?

    2. Now that Jordan Jefferson is playing full time, how well will we handle a QB that can run and throw the ball.

    Another, less significant concern but still legitimate, is how will we do in the second half defensively. I know we've been lights out this year in the second half. But this game will be different than any we've played before. LSU will keep running and will send RB in waves at us. With Tyson out, will our DL get winded at the end of the game. LSU is deeper than we are at almost every position. Will that depth show up in the final quarter or can we play them tight regardless?

    jubilee

  • I've been accused of stating the same thing different ways in the past.

    Bout to do it again. Summation of those 6 games for UGA

    Gave up an avg of 11.33 first downs
    Gave up 208 total yards per game.
    Gave up 187 passing yards per game
    Gave up 20 rushing yards per game.
    3rd Down Conversions 23.17%
    Time of Possession Average 36:53
    GAVE UP 1 RUSHING TD OVER ALL 6 GAMES (Love it)
    Faced 25.1 rush attempts per game
    Gave up 4 Passing TDs over all 6 games.
    Sacked the QB 4.66 times per game.
    7 INTs over those 6 games.

    Championship Caliber Defense.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by meansonny on 11/28/2011 at 5:08 PM

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  • jubilee said...

    I have two big concerns with LSU and how they match up with us right now and one other concern that sticks in the back of my mind.

    1. How will the right side of our OL handle their DL?

    2. Now that Jordan Jefferson is playing full time, how well will we handle a QB that can run and throw the ball.

    Another, less significant concern but still legitimate, is how will we do in the second half defensively. I know we've been lights out this year in the second half. But this game will be different than any we've played before. LSU will keep running and will send RB in waves at us. With Tyson out, will our DL get winded at the end of the game. LSU is deeper than we are at almost every position. Will that depth show up in the final quarter or can we play them tight regardless?

    You're right on.

    Jordon Jefferson already has 1 come from behind win against us (the AJ Green celebration penalty game).

    Mobile QBs can wreck havoc against NFL defenses (especially late in the game). Ours is no different.

    meansonny

  • Great job sonny!!

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  • meansonny said...

    You're right on.

    Jordon Jefferson already has 1 come from behind win against us (the AJ Green celebration penalty game).

    Mobile QBs can wreck havoc against NFL defenses (especially late in the game). Ours is no different.

    What do you think about our OL vs their DL? I remember the Boise game we got whipped. Some of that has been corrected though. The gaps between our OL is smaller now and that helped. But against good DL, the right side of our line has been beat some. All it takes for a D to wreck havoc is to be able to consistently beat one guy on the OL. Do that, and it changes the whole game.

    jubilee

  • meansonny said...

    I've been accused of stating the same thing different ways in the past.

    Bout to do it again. Summation of those 6 games for UGA

    Gave up an avg of 11.33 first downs
    Gave up 208 total yards per game.
    Gave up 187 passing yards per game
    Gave up 20 rushing yards per game.
    3rd Down Conversions 23.17%
    Time of Possession Average 36:53
    GAVE UP 1 RUSHING TD OVER ALL 6 GAMES (Love it)
    Faced 25.1 rush attempts per game
    Gave up 4 Passing TDs over all 6 games.
    Sacked the QB 4.66 times per game.
    7 INTs over those 6 games.

    Championship Caliber Defense.

    Overall great work meansonny. I was having a back and forth on LHB today with a Corndog lover, next time I know to invite you to cover the Stats. Upvote.

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  • WinnDawg02 said...

    Good info, better post. Upvote.

    This ^

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  • jubilee said...

    What do you think about our OL vs their DL? I remember the Boise game we got whipped. Some of that has been corrected though. The gaps between our OL is smaller now and that helped. But against good DL, the right side of our line has been beat some. All it takes for a D to wreck havoc is to be able to consistently beat one guy on the OL. Do that, and it changes the whole game.

    You're exactly right.

    On days when Murray has time in the pocket and is able to step up in his throws, he's near the Brees/Rodgers QB that he envisions himself to be (that said... a lot of QBs can say that. see the WAC and MWC).

    If we can hold some effectiveness with the run game, LSU won't be able to pin their ears back and gun for Murray like they want.
    Our run defense is possibly better than LSU's. There's a small chance that we can make them one dimensional and force them into some bad situations that they aren't used to.

    meansonny

  • meansonny said...

    You're exactly right.

    On days when Murray has time in the pocket and is able to step up in his throws, he's near the Brees/Rodgers QB that he envisions himself to be (that said... a lot of QBs can say that. see the WAC and MWC).

    If we can hold some effectiveness with the run game, LSU won't be able to pin their ears back and gun for Murray like they want. Our run defense is possibly better than LSU's. There's a small chance that we can make them one dimensional and force them into some bad situations that they aren't used to.

    I like our D's chances. This may sound strange, but if our O can get first downs, our D will be fine. I think the first drive of the game will be real important for both teams. If we go 3 and out too many times, our D will have a harder time in the 4th.

    I don't expect a high scoring game. I am just hoping we don't implode on special teams or with a turnover. UGA has shown throughout the whole year they can line up with any body. But if we have a turnover bug bite us, or if the special teams tank again, we can get spanked bad. Play to our potential, we can make a game of it and perhaps even win.

    jubilee

  • edit: nm, didn't see jubilee's post, he said it better

    This post was edited by scottncc on 11/28/2011 at 8:09 PM

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  • Excellent information! thank you for the info.

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  • Plain and simple. We need to hit em n the mouth when they have the ball. We need to protect Murray, and IC needs to run his azz off. Look guys, we haven't been n the ship n 7 years and regardless of who we playin we need to play like a bunch of dawgs!!! Of course LSU is the flavor this yr, but so is bama. We need to take back what is ours and that's the SEC championship and gt back to national relevance so I can stop hearing bout BAma and LSU and Arkansas and Florida! I'm tired of these Schools getting all of the respect and we get none. I'm tired if the damn "honey badger" talk. If he was at UGA, they would say he's a pretty good db just undersized. But bc he's at LSU he could win the Heisman. BS!!!! N the famous words of Chris Hatcher, "Men they showing u no respect, they think u are a bunch of girls playin ball. I want u to show them that u have big balls and I want u too put their mouth on the curb and smash all their teeth out!!!". We need to show them that we r UGA and we kickin azz and takin names. Go dawgs!!!

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  • Very interesting analysis Meansonny, thanks for all the heavy lifting.

    Your analysis got me really excited until I took a more exhaustive look at the teams we did NOT play in common (the full picture) and that's where LSU gets separation in a review of the complete body of work of each team.

    Don't get me wrong, I think we have a GREAT D (and O when we are consistent) and a solid chance of winning, however, LSU has beaten a lot of top ranked teams (i.e. Oregon, Bama, Arkansas).

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  • Also consider that we were short handed in quite a few games leading up to Florida because of injuries on the defense.

    jt10mc

  • Also consider that we were short handed in quite a few games leading up to Florida because of injuries on the defense.

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