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... why everyone is so convinced that Jon Gruden would be this great college coach?
I know he's an entertaining TV personality and all, but I don't get it. There is nothing in his past that guarantees success in college, at least to the level that Tennessee fans have been fawning over him.
Vols would pribably be better off beating Auburn to punch on Charlie Strong IMO
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I agree, I see Strong going to either Auburn or Vols...I think he will be able to recruit out of either.
Thank you G! I've been saying this for a while and if you look at chuckie's winning percentage as a NFL coach (.540) its not that impressive either. Sure he won a ring, but he didn't build that team, Dungy did. And everyone can say "Well, you're always technically playing with someone else's team." But that's not true, through your draft picks and FA you do build your team. He got handed the best D in the NFL at the time and just made a couple of minor adjustments to the O and got a ring. Might I remind everyone it all went down hill from there. I love him as a tv personality. A coach, meh...
I think Tennessee fans see a guy that has instant name recognition And someone that recruits would love to play for, but I agree there is nothing that says he would be successful in college! He would have to have an immediate impact though with the kind of money he would demand, I'm talking winning at least 10 games and competing for the sec in his first season.
because the media say he will be. Also Alabama can play with NFL teams. They pick who plays the MNC and the Heisman because they know best.
Why did people think these guys could Coach in the Pros.
It worked out poorly for Johnson, Vermeil, Noll, Madden and Harbaugh, right?
College coaches can coach in the NFL. They need good jobs to be successful.
Who has won with the 'Phins and Skins the last 20 years, for example? Plenty of NFL coaches have failed in those places too.
I think it's name recognition too. But do you think Gruden would want to be in kids' living rooms so much? I think he would rather be watching film or out with his players. I don't see anyway he goes to the college level when so many would want him for an NFL job (ahem, Dallas).
All the ones I mentioned won National titles..
My remark was made in jest...Thus the
Speaking of Dallas, Jimmy Johnson was successful on both levels. But I know that is not the norm.
I've never understood it either. Doesn' have a crazy impressive resume, but his name pops up year after year everytime a couple high profile jobs open up. If I was looking for a retired or fired NFL coach the name on top of my list would be Cowher. I think Singletary could be a great college coah too. Hope he gets anothe shot somewhere.
I think Gruden is a brilliant football mind, and has the personality and name recognition that would make recruiting a breeze wherever he went. That said, his challenge coaching in college would be the same as any other NFL coach making the transition - can they do it at the college level with the limited hours available for coaching, and can they water down their ideas to make them possible for college players to grasp? Charlie Weis was his own worst enemy in that regard.
Gruden is never going to coach in college, it's just become the obligatory name to throw around each year.
Tennessee isn't going to get someone that prestigious, IMO. I think they found out last time around that UT isn't the appealing job it used to be, and I don't expect much has changed.
Guys, this has taken on a life of its own at this point. Its Gruden or Bust in the eyes of the fanbase up here. I work with some fairly level headed realistic vol fans and even they are on board with Gruden Mania. My buddy told me yesterday after the Mike & Mike interview, "He denied it, but then he didn't want to talk about it. That tells me he's coming." You litterally can't make this stuff up.
That's the exact same rhetoric we heard from Arkansas fans last year. They're still saying the same things over at Hogville re: Gruden.
yeah, I mean, totally dis-regard the man's statement! haha, the sad part is now who-ever they hire faces an immediate up hill climb with the fans just because he's not John Gruden!
J. Gruden said himself that he despised the recruiting process... that to me screams no hire. Thats the name of the game.
Gruden's dad was a college coach under Dan Devine at Notre dame. He played his high school ball at South Bend Clay, and was always around the football program in the late 70's at ND. I think he was the quarterback at Miami of Ohio in the early 80's but not exactly sure of that. I think this whole " Gruden to college" rumors first got started back when ND was looking in the early 2000's
"Strap on" is "No parts" spelled backwards...coincidence--- I think not!
It's funny. Both Pete Carroll and Saban were not what you call successful in the NFL but both got titles in college. Jim Mora in 1 year took an irrelevant UCLA and has them on the right track already. Shoot Petrino is one of the best offensive minds and college football coaches and he failed in the NFL. Gruden is a better coach then all of them. Gruden could build a power house of a team. It's all about recruiting and having a great d-coordinator and Gruden knows plenty of d-coordinators who would coach for him.
I absolutely think Gruden can get it done in college.
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