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The Buckeyes play no regular-season opponents in Athlon's preseason national top 15 and only 1 in national top 25. But because of name brand and Conference an undefeated OSU gets into BCS title game over any 1-loss team, including the SEC champion. This is another reason why CFB needs an 8- or 16-team playoff.
Schlabach and several other national analysts have ranked Ohio State No. 1, not because they think the Bucks are better than Bama, but instead stating that their sked. is more manageable. In other words, they are trying to be Nostradamus instead of simply ranking the best teams.
In contrast we play a national-high 4 opponents ranked in Athlon's preseason national top 13, including our first 2 games and 3 of first 4. This is just another reason why scheduling Clemson was so counter-productive to our chance of winning a national title - which should always be our No. 1 goal - especially for a year when LSU or Bama is slated to rotate onto the schedule.
Very optimistic about this team, but laws of averages say we are not going to win all four of those games, putting our BCS title chances at a huge disadvantage compared to the likes of Ohio St, and that's what sux about the current FBS-BCS model.
This post was edited by nostalgia80 9 months ago
Just one more year to go with it.
Their schedule is a juggernaut compared to Louisville's...
LOL. True, but I don't think Lou goes over 1-loss SEC champion even though lots of folks would argue about their win over Florida last year. Still ridiculous, though.
Thank God. And once we start a 4-team playoff, it will only be a few years before that expands bc of all the extra $$$ it will provide. If we had a 16-team playoff, playing a top non-conf. Opponent would not be such a potential pitfall/eliminator of national title chances.
Very true. 4 team playoff will help a little, but there will still be teams with bull crap schedules holding good teams out. a 16 team will give the best teams a chance. If you aren't in the top 16, regardless of conference, then too bad.
Would you guys watch a Ohio St vs Louisville NCG?
Depends....what else will be on TV? Give me some choices.
Umm negative ghost rider. OSU doesn't deserve to go with y'all's weak A$$ schedule. Barely scraped by a few easy games last year as well.
Dawgs on Top!
Well, Louisville was there this year. Oh, you meant in football?
Born and bred Bulldog, living in Maryland since '88
We are headed to 8 super conferences whose winners will advance to the playoff bracket for the championship.
I'd rather watch that than watch a rematch of an SEC regular season game, that's for damned sure.
Okay, I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment.
I think you guys are overstating how much "easier" Ohio State's schedule is. Let's take a closer look.
Now, they only scheduled one legit OOC team this year, that's Cal, and they're playing them on the road. That's no Oregon, but it is a legit Pac 12 football team and it is a long trip.
Most years our only "legit" OOC opponent is GT... we scheduled an extra one this year in Clemson, so point goes to us.
Now, as far as their conference slate goes, three of their eight conference games are against teams currently in the pre-season top 25 on ESPN.com. Two of those are on the road.
They'll host #25 Wisconsin on September 28th, and Wisconsin is a team that is capable of getting anybody at any time. They're a physical football team. Even without Bielema I expect there's sitll enough of his culture there to do some damage.
The very next week the Buckeyes will travel to #24 Northwestern. Northwestern is the Big 10 version of Vandy. Pat Fitzgerald has done one hell of a job there, and the Wildcats are no pushover anymore.
The Bucks cap their season at the big house in Ann Arbor against #9 Michigan. That's no picnic.
Now take a look at ours. Obviously playing at Clemson in week one is the big difference. But past that...
We host #8 USCjr, #16 LSU and then have #11 Florida in Jacksonville.
We've got three pre-season ranked teams on our conference slate, they've got three on theirs. Now, is the grouping of USCe, LSU and Florida tougher than Michigan, Wisconsin and Northwestern? Sure it is. But let's bear in mind that around these parts we tend to pooh pooh some of those Big 10 teams which are actually a lot more legit than we give them credit for (remember Michigan State and Nebraska gave us all we wanted in the Capital One Bowl recently).
I guess what I'm saying is I've seen softer schedules. I don't look at THIS year's tOSU schedule and say "man, that's the softest schedule I've ever seen." It looks about right for a Big 10 schedule. Not their fault that the Big 10 doesn't get as much respect in the rankings right now as the SEC. We're working off of perceptions here, after all.
Lots of fallacies in your post. The Big Ten doesn't get as much respect as the SEC right now, because they get exposed as a slow, weak conference every bowl season, while the SEC annually posts a winning record every bowl season, in addition to winning the national title for 7 straight years. Big Ten and Ohio St. homer Kirk Herbstreit annually harps on Big Ten bowl futility.
The Big Ten went 2-5 in bowls last year and that was actually a decent showing compared to recent years. The SEC has never compiled such a poor bowl record since bf expansion in 92.
But the Big Ten is also well behind the PAC-12 and Big 12 as a football conference. The Big Ten is an abysmal 3-16 in its last 19 Jan. 1 bowl games. Read that putrid record again. Big Ten = joke.
The Big Ten has won a total of 2 Rose Bowls this Century even though Jim Delany and his insistence of having a Big Ten team in that game every year have been the primary hinderances toward establishing a real college football playoff, which would essentially end any chance of a Big Ten team backdooring it's way into a BCS title game through weak scheduling like Ohio St. has done only to get exposed and blown out by Florida and LSU.
And since its win over Arkansas was vacated for using inelligible players, Ohio St. has still never recorded a win over an SEC team in a bowl game in its football history.
Cal was 3-9 last year and hasn't posted a winning record in PAC-10/12 games this decade. They are about on par with Ky. as a football program right now.
I will bet you everything I own that 4 teams on our schedule (SC, Clem, LSU and FL) are ranked ahead of Mich in preseason AP poll. Heck, Michigan is only ranked that high bc of how weak the Big Ten remains.
Nebraska is the third Big Ten team highly probable to be ranked this preseason and Ohio St. does not play the Huskers this year, nor do they play Mich. St., the fourth and last ranked team from the Big Ten per Athlon's.
I have little respect for Ohio St. and the Big Ten is a joke that will only get worse with the additions of Maryland and Rutgers. That undefeated 2012 Ohio St. team would have truly been the 7th best in the SEC.
Seriously man, you are as bad as Alabama fans. We haven't won a NCG so you go around berating other conference schedule for not being as good in the past few seasons. The only thing guaranteed in life are death, taxes, and that football conferences/teams rise and fall. You can't truly judge the strength of schedule till the games have all been played so please stop whining until we actually get left out of a NCG because of some other teams "soft" schedule.
This post was edited by Ian Maxfield 9 months ago
If OSU and the Big 10 were any good you wouldn't be on an SEC teams message board...run along now I hear your mama calling you
Pretty sure he's a Georgia fan and was talking about us.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on missing the "we". I have been following college and UGA football long enough to know when someone is a bandwagon fan. I have read plenty of nostalgia's posts and as Dawgcommander pointed out recently he goes on ignorant rants about stuff he really doesn't understand (Shaw playing LT, how elite LT just fall out of the sky, how horrible UGA's recruiting is, how if we had an indoor playing field we would never lose a recruit to AL). Every year teams are ranked high and don't live up to expectations, so if you want to discuss our schedule and opponents please do, if you want to discuss OSU's schedule go ahead. But please stop complaining about the future possibility of OSU getting into the NCG and us getting left out until it actually happens then discuss it all you want. If we are NC caliber team, and I believe we are, then we will beat every team on our schedule and god willing OSU.
Sorry if it wasn't clear, I don't post much. I was specifically talking about Nostalgia's original quote,
"laws of averages say we are not going to win all four of those games, putting our BCS title chances at a huge disadvantage compared to the likes of Ohio St."
It could be that every SEC team sucks this year and every Big 10 team plays out of their minds. We won't know till the season is over. You play and win the games you have scheduled and don't worry about OSU until they are the team in front of you.
So was this rant directed at nostalgia
My bad, guess I read that wrong. Sorry
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