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Spurrier or Richt? Who has done a better

  • job coaching this year? Assuming we both win today, both teams will be 10-2 and both coaches strong candidates for COY in SEC. Strong arguments can be made for both sides.

    -Spurrier has guided the team to 10-2 record losing their starting running back (playing a 5th string true freshman running back since the injury), starting cornerback, starting quarterback and starting left tackle.

    -Richt has guided his team to 10-2 after an 0-2 start and a lot of fans calling for his head and a lot of pressure.

    What say you Dawgs?

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    DavidsonNCCock

  • SC was picked to win the East and had All-Americans coming back in Lattimore and
    Jeffrey plus most of their D coming back.

    It's NOT EFEN CLOSE,....Mark Richt has done the best coaching job in the SEC this year.

    Plus, they would have lost to us if not for 4 gift turnover TDs we gave them early in the year
    before our young team got going.

    wayx

  • Do you really, honestly think any dawg fan would choose Spurrier?

    Miles is gonna win it anyway.

    Allhailuga

  • Phil Steele picked you guys to win the East and our site owner JC Shurrburt said before the season that you guys probably go 0-2 and win out. It's not like your season was a huge surprise. I just think that any coach who starts 0-2 and wins 10 straight should be given some major props. Richt was on his way out if the team collapsed but they didn't and you guys are playing in the SECCG.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • Allhailuga said...

    Do you really, honestly think any dawg fan would choose Spurrier?

    Miles is gonna win it anyway.

    Just looking for some healthy football discussion my friend. Not every fan is so biased that they can't see things from outside the box.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • wayx said...

    SC was picked to win the East and had All-Americans coming back in Lattimore and Jeffrey plus most of their D coming back.

    It's NOT EFEN CLOSE,....Mark Richt has done the best coaching job in the SEC this year.

    Plus, they would have lost to us if not for 4 gift turnover TDs we gave them early in the year before our young team got going.

    SMH, didn't you guys have most of your d coming back this year too? Lattimore went out 4-5 games ago. We're starting a 5th string TRUE FRESHMAN running back, our starting left tackle about the same time, and Garcia played in only several games this year. We put our season on a 3 star true sophomore quarterback who had never started a game before (1 quarter vs ECU b/c of his practice play).

    Of course it's close. Richt has done a helluva job and I think Spurrier has too. Honestly, I think it's a coin toss on COY in SEC b/w those two.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • I just think after the 0-2 start Richt has done little better than Spurrier just to be little fair & balance please SC beat Clemson can not stand that team at all win one for the SEC like UGA did against Tech .

    TurboDawgs

  • The Sec title game will be a battle for the Sec coach of the year.

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  • Gata said...

    The Sec title game will be a battle for the Sec coach of the year.

    Maybe you're right but LSU has so much talent that I think the voters take that into consideration. I honestly think the vote will be between Richt and Spurrier. Close call, both have done an outstanding job this year.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • DavidsonNCCock said...

    Maybe you're right but LSU has so much talent that I think the voters take that into consideration. I honestly think the vote will be between Richt and Spurrier. Close call, both have done an outstanding job this year.

    After thinking about it a little more I have to agree with what you're saying. But, my pick would be Richt over anybody else, obviously.

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  • Gata said...

    After thinking about it a little more I have to agree with what you're saying. But, my pick would be Richt over anybody else, obviously.

    hard to argue with Richt if he's COY.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • DavidsonNCCock said...

    job coaching this year? Assuming we both win today, both teams will be 10-2 and both coaches strong candidates for COY in SEC. Strong arguments can be made for both sides.

    -Spurrier has guided the team to 10-2 record losing their starting running back (playing a 5th string true freshman running back since the injury), starting cornerback, starting quarterback and starting left tackle.

    -Richt has guided his team to 10-2 after an 0-2 start and a lot of fans calling for his head and a lot of pressure.

    What say you Dawgs?

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    SEC Coach of the year breakdown:

    1. Les Miles
    2. Mark Richt.
    3. Nick Saban
    4. Bobby Petrino
    5. Steve Spurrier

    Sorry, but Spurrier is not in the discussion this year. You don't receive those kinds of accolades when you're picked to win your division and you fail to accomplish it. To suggest either Richt or Spurrier or anybody else deserves it over Miles this year is silly. He has dealt with considerable off field issues and has dominated a monster schedule.

    Further, none of the coaches above have a bad loss other than Spurrier. Miles has no losses. Saban lost a nailbiter to Miles. Richt lost to Boise and the division favorite USC when they were at full strength. And Petrino lost to Saban and Miles who both have superior talent. Spurrier lost to Auburn despite having a better team.

    There's just no argument that Spurrier should be mentioned above any of the other 4 coaches this year.

    reservoir_dawg

  • reservoir_dawg said...

    SEC Coach of the year breakdown:

    1. Les Miles 2. Mark Richt. 3. Nick Saban 4. Bobby Petrino 5. Steve Spurrier

    Sorry, but Spurrier is not in the discussion this year. You don't receive those kinds of accolades when you're picked to win your division and you fail to accomplish it. To suggest either Richt or Spurrier or anybody else deserves it over Miles this year is silly. He has dealt with considerable off field issues and has dominated a monster schedule.

    Further, none of the coaches above have a bad loss other than Spurrier. Miles has no losses. Saban lost a nailbiter to Miles. Richt lost to Boise and the division favorite USC when they were at full strength. And Petrino lost to Saban and Miles who both have superior talent. Spurrier lost to Auburn despite having a better team.

    There's just no argument that Spurrier should be mentioned above any of the other 4 coaches this year.

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    This post was edited by Gentry Estes on 11/27/2011 at 8:33 PM

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  • reservoir_dawg said...

    SEC Coach of the year breakdown:

    1. Les Miles 2. Mark Richt. 3. Nick Saban 4. Bobby Petrino 5. Steve Spurrier

    Sorry, but Spurrier is not in the discussion this year. You don't receive those kinds of accolades when you're picked to win your division and you fail to accomplish it. To suggest either Richt or Spurrier or anybody else deserves it over Miles this year is silly. He has dealt with considerable off field issues and has dominated a monster schedule.

    Further, none of the coaches above have a bad loss other than Spurrier. Miles has no losses. Saban lost a nailbiter to Miles. Richt lost to Boise and the division favorite USC when they were at full strength. And Petrino lost to Saban and Miles who both have superior talent. Spurrier lost to Auburn despite having a better team.

    There's just no argument that Spurrier should be mentioned above any of the other 4 coaches this year.

    Georgia has top ten recruiting classes the past 4 years, South Carolina-not so much. So for Spurrier to go 10-2 losing his 5th year starting qb, 5th year starting left tackle, all american running back and starting cornerback, I think is impressive.

    On the flip side, I think Richt has done an equally impressive job with all the pressure on him this year and after starting 0-2.

    COY does not always go to the team with the best record, I'd be surprised if Saban or Petrino finish higher in votes than Richt or Spurrier. I think it's a three man race b/w Miles, Richt and Spurrier.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • DavidsonNCCock said...

    Georgia has top ten recruiting classes the past 4 years, South Carolina-not so much. So for Spurrier to go 10-2 losing his 5th year starting qb, 5th year starting left tackle, all american running back and starting cornerback, I think is impressive.

    On the flip side, I think Richt has done an equally impressive job with all the pressure on him this year and after starting 0-2.

    COY does not always go to the team with the best record, I'd be surprised if Saban or Petrino finish higher in votes than Richt or Spurrier. I think it's a three man race b/w Miles, Richt and Spurrier.

    Spurrier is responsible for every player on his roster. He recruited every last one of them. If he wants better players, he needs to recruit them. Further, lets not pretend like he's leading a team full of 1-AA guys onto the field each week. There's a reason he was the preseason favorite to win the East and its not because South Carolina is less talented than all the other teams.

    With that said, I'm not suggesting Spurrier hasn't done a decent job this year. If I was a South Carolina fan, I wouldn't complain. What he's done, however, isn't Coach of the Year material.

    And we'll just have to agree to disagree about Saban and Petrino. They have both done excellent jobs this year. Bama is a monster and it is all Saban's doing. Arkansas, despite losing the best QB in their history and a very good RB to injury before the season, elevated themselves into the Nat'l title discussion.

    reservoir_dawg

  • reservoir_dawg said...

    Spurrier is responsible for every player on his roster. He recruited every last one of them. If he wants better players, he needs to recruit them. Further, lets not pretend like he's leading a team full of 1-AA guys onto the field each week. There's a reason he was the preseason favorite to win the East and its not because South Carolina is less talented than all the other teams.

    With that said, I'm not suggesting Spurrier hasn't done a decent job this year. If I was a South Carolina fan, I wouldn't complain. What he's done, however, isn't Coach of the Year material.

    And we'll just have to agree to disagree about Saban and Petrino. They have both done excellent jobs this year. Bama is a monster and it is all Saban's doing. Arkansas, despite losing the best QB in their history and a very good RB to injury before the season, elevated themselves into the Nat'l title discussion.

    It's a lot easier to recruit and get big time recruits when you're Florida, Georgia, Alabama, LSU. When you consistently finish in the top 10 in recruiting each year as those teams do it makes coaching easier. I'm not saying we have scrubs, we have a lot of good players but to suggest that Spurrier can go pick top recruits like those schools is ridiculous. Sure we're getting better but we don't have the name recognition like the big schools. It's a lot easier to win games win you have top recruits each year. If we finish 5th in recruiting in the SEC year in and year out, it's harder to consistently win in the SEC.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • DavidsonNCCock said...

    It's a lot easier to recruit and get big time recruits when you're Florida, Georgia, Alabama, LSU. When you consistently finish in the top 10 in recruiting each year as those teams do it makes coaching easier. I'm not saying we have scrubs, we have a lot of good players but to suggest that Spurrier can go pick top recruits like those schools is ridiculous. Sure we're getting better but we don't have the name recognition like the big schools. It's a lot easier to win games win you have top recruits each year. If we finish 5th in recruiting in the SEC year in and year out, it's harder to consistently win in the SEC.

    I pointed out two things:

    1) As Head Coach, the buck stops with Spurrier in regards to recruiting and everything else in his program.
    2) Nobody is buying that Spurrier doesn't have top notch talent on his roster.

    You can bring up recruiting rankings and the inherent difficulties a head coach faces at South Carolina all you want. It doesn't change either of the facts above. Spurrier had a loaded team this year, despite what recruiting rankings of his kids may have indicated. Based on returning talent, he was picked to win the division. He failed to do that for a variety of reasons.

    That's why he's not going to be named coach of the year. You simply don't win that award when you underachieve based on your preseason expectations.

    reservoir_dawg

  • Davidson.....noble thought trying to have an intelligent conversation on a Georgia board where Spurreir is involved. He has owned Georgia his whole career and they will never recognize him for anything.......too many sour grapes.

    Both Coach Richt and Coach Spurrier are deserving of the honor in my book. Shame on the folks who were ready to run Richt out of town and now wish to defend him as Coach of the year. Richt is a class act......always has been and always will be. He is a damn fine coach as well. Whether Spurrier wins the award this year or not is a mute point. Fact is it is his finest coaching job in his career......a point that is shared by many in the national media and has been expressed as such. For the guy picking him 5th in the voting........laughable! Don't let your judgement be affected by your hatred. You try to paint a plausible argument but it is obvious your judgement is clouded. He will finish no worse than second in the voting.

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  • Gamec0ck said...

    Davidson.....noble thought trying to have an intelligent conversation on a Georgia board where Spurreir is involved. He has owned Georgia his whole career and they will never recognize him for anything.......too many sour grapes.

    Both Coach Richt and Coach Spurrier are deserving of the honor in my book. Shame on the folks who were ready to run Richt out of town and now wish to defend him as Coach of the year. Richt is a class act......always has been and always will be. He is a damn fine coach as well. Whether Spurrier wins the award this year or not is a mute point. Fact is it is his finest coaching job in his career......a point that is shared by many in the national media and has been expressed as such. For the guy picking him 5th in the voting........laughable! Don't let your judgement be affected by your hatred. You try to paint a plausible argument but it is obvious your judgement is clouded. He will finish no worse than second in the voting.

    Good stuff.

    If SS won the SEC with a team full of one legged blind guys....we ain't giving him anything.

    With that said, I think he just completed one of the best coaching jobs of his career. He is starting to grow on me, I guess.

    And Davidson, I am petitioning the BB to have your ban lifted. Your a solid poster and I enjoy BS'ing with you.

    GeorgiaBoy

  • Gamec0ck said...

    Davidson.....noble thought trying to have an intelligent conversation on a Georgia board where Spurreir is involved. He has owned Georgia his whole career and they will never recognize him for anything.......too many sour grapes.

    Both Coach Richt and Coach Spurrier are deserving of the honor in my book. Shame on the folks who were ready to run Richt out of town and now wish to defend him as Coach of the year. Richt is a class act......always has been and always will be. He is a damn fine coach as well. Whether Spurrier wins the award this year or not is a mute point. Fact is it is his finest coaching job in his career......a point that is shared by many in the national media and has been expressed as such. For the guy picking him 5th in the voting........laughable! Don't let your judgement be affected by your hatred. You try to paint a plausible argument but it is obvious your judgement is clouded. He will finish no worse than second in the voting.

    I hate to break down the whole basis of your reasoning for my opinion, but I don't hate Spurrier. Judging coaching performances has nothing to do with my personal likes or dislikes of people I don't know beyond their public persona. I also can't imagine why I would like Petrino, as a Falcons fan, or Saban, as a UGA fan, but not Spurrier. Saban is far more detrimental to the UGA program than Spurrier. However, I still respect the job he has done.

    Further , as I've stated already, I think Spurrier did a fine job this year. I'm not insulting him or running him down.

    With that said, you guys shouldn't have lost to Auburn. I don't think any rational USC fan would argue that. If you beat Auburn, you win the division as predicted and finish 11-1 and play in a monster SEC title matchup against LSU. Spurrier would definitely be involved in talks for coach of the year if that had happened. As it stands now, there are several other coaches this season whose exploits outshine Spurrier.

    reservoir_dawg

  • wayx said...

    SC was picked to win the East and had All-Americans coming back in Lattimore and
    Jeffrey plus most of their D coming back.

    It's NOT EFEN CLOSE,....Mark Richt has done the best coaching job in the SEC this year.

    Plus, they would have lost to us if not for 4 gift turnover TDs we gave them early in the year
    before our young team got going.

    Woulda, coulda, shouda, man you sound like a clemson fan not a sec dawg. Quit crying you got beat plain and simple. Both Carolina and UGA have gotten better as the year has gone on. We lost our starting left tackle 3 games in, our starting corner/safety 2 games in and our all sec rb in game 7. Not to mention we played with an inexperienced qb for the last 7 games. We both had issues. Man up and go play LSU....you earned it.....SOS should be SEC Coach of the year.....no coach did more with less

    JICOCK21

  • They both have had great seasons plain and simple, but its not over yet lets see what happens this weekend. If UGA wins then I think Richt wins in a landslide. If we lose it could go either way. Spurrier has had a heck of a season and he has battled through some tough issues with personel. But Richt has done exactly the same thing. But regardless of the outcome we won the East and I'm sure if you ask Coach Richt that is what he would rather have had happen anyway.

    blitzdawg

  • JICOCK21 said...

    Woulda, coulda, shouda, man you sound like a clemson fan not a sec dawg. Quit crying you got beat plain and simple. Both Carolina and UGA have gotten better as the year has gone on. We lost our starting left tackle 3 games in, our starting corner/safety 2 games in and our all sec rb in game 7. Not to mention we played with an inexperienced qb for the last 7 games. We both had issues. Man up and go play LSU....you earned it.....SOS should be SEC Coach of the year.....no coach did more with less

    Funny that prior to the season, all your fans could talk about was how loaded with talent you guys would be. Now, after you lose 3 players to injury, no coach has done more with less than SOS? How does that make sense?

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  • WinnDawg02 said...

    Funny that prior to the season, all your fans could talk about was how loaded with talent you guys would be. Now, after you lose 3 players to injury, no coach has done more with less than SOS? How does that make sense?

    I know right. Our best Rb is a freshman and when he got hurt/suspended a 170 lb. walk on STARTED. We lose defensive players on the regular and have true freshmen filling in. I appreciate the confidence in the cock fans that our walk ons are better than their scholarship players. This conversation is rediculous.

    Spurrier: preseason SEC East favorite but did not make it; played a QB that pretty much sh*t on his face until the last minute only to find that the backup he has been avoiding is much better; loses a few players and his season is lost

    Richt: Won the SEC east over favor USCe; Overcame the week to week possibility of not having a job the next week; kept off field incidences to almost non existing; used a team who had 5+ walk ons earn scholarships because of attrition/injury and while taking even more injuries to key players still found a way to win the East with walk ons and true freshmen filling in.

    Tough decision!

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